Team Ire Vs Team Belium

[Decks]

Ok its gone on long enough .................. Whats happening ??

Team Ire and Team Belgium played our match Wednesday 28th with a few strange goings on well in good lol ..............

1. Team Ireland could only manage 4 players on the night with 2 supposed defo,s for the night, not showing up ( You all know what is like ). One moved house and needed to get reconnected and did, but too late for the match of course, while the other just didnt bother showing up.

2. In this, Team Belgium really wanted a 6v6, as they had their team set and ready and just wanted a game so all players could play it. With that, after letting Blutch know we couldnt make the six as much as we wanted too, he suggested we could bring in "guests" so we could all play and have a laugh.

So I did ............ I brought in, OldGit (English player) & StarSniper (Welsh player) to the team as =SWE=Clan had nothing on :bor. There was Np at all through out the match as again the scores never show how tight rounds do get.

Im posting this here and now because as if accepted by Team Bel from day one, the result or future of the match between us could be concluded.
Weather an Admin stepped in or not .......... here nor there ......... But Im still waiting to see whats happening either way ...........

Result ..................

Renan:

Ire 4 - 3 Bel
Ire 7 - 0 Bel

First clean sheet and what we should play for .........

Ire Win 11 - 3

Southern France

Ire 5 - 1 Bel + 1 Dr
Ire 6 - 1 Bel

Ire Win 11 - 2 + 1 Dr


Team Ireland Players

Kelvin
Spook
Evil
Decks

Inter players .................

OldGit
StarSniper

[Decks]

Oh and just in case :bor

Spook = 12
Kelvin = 40
OldGit = 30
Decks = 18
Evil = 17
Star = 24

Frag Whores

[Fox]

A new rule put in place recently states that you need to check your oppositions line up at the start of the game.

Once the match is played invalid players aren't reason for a default.

fox4admin

[Decks]

Damn Fox your fast lol ..... But thats not what im getting at m8 ....... If a player is to play for another clan/Inter team with the permission of the other clan well in good. But if a team knowing plays someone NOT on their team and NOT given that permission IS reason for default ................

This isnt the case m8. They suggested, we got them in ...... We Won lol , What am I to do ? look for N00bs ??

[Fox]

They played the match accepting your line-up.

No default, score stands.

[Fuppet]

Very interesting!

Nothing to do with the actual rights and wrongs of this match, but what I find somewhat funny is this.

I had known the SWE lads for ages when something similar happened to me when playing for rejekz v swe. I arranged the match for 6v6 and not long before the kick off 2 of our players ducked for whatever reason.

We asked if we could play one or 2 new guys that had registered but not the full time required. SWE categorically refused and even accused me/us of doing this intentinally to annoy them.

It's nice to see the same thing has happened to you Decks mate and that you now play by the friendly rules that SWE refused to do. I'm so glad you've come around to the friendly approach at long last!!!!!

Motto of this story, "Every dog has it's day".

[ZuMie]

we'll it started as a 6v6 but after 3 rounds (score was 2:1 for BEL then) i had to leave (my mother :@) and then dunno if they played 5v6?

[Decks]

Very interesting!

Nothing to do with the actual rights and wrongs of this match, but what I find somewhat funny is this.

I had known the SWE lads for ages when something similar happened to me when playing for rejekz v swe. I arranged the match for 6v6 and not long before the kick off 2 of our players ducked for whatever reason.

We asked if we could play one or 2 new guys that had registered but not the full time required. SWE categorically refused and even accused me/us of doing this intentinally to annoy them.

It's nice to see the same thing has happened to you Decks mate and that you now play by the friendly rules that SWE refused to do. I'm so glad you've come around to the friendly approach at long last!!!!!

Motto of this story, "Every dog has it's day".

:confused: This is an International match section Fuppet, nothing to do with =SWE=Clan m8. You obviously still hold many a grudge against =SWE=Clan for whatever childish reason and your welcome to it tbh.
Nice to see an Admin/Mod have their favorites in mind and just flame topics.

Oh and just on that note, I dont remember that conflict between Rejekz and =SWE= tbvh with you, was I even in =SWE=Clan at this time ?? Or played on that night ?? Maybe you still have screen shots of it ?? What year was it ??

[Decks]

we'll it started as a 6v6 but after 3 rounds (score was 2:1 for BEL then) i had to leave (my mother :@) and then dunno if they played 5v6?

Your wrong there Zumie buds :call

http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o142/DecksP/IreVbel.jpg

We also held and waited only 10mins for another Bel player to join ;) so it was 6v6 all the way :can

[Spartan]

We will discuss it...we have the frogs opinion back now to as he is in charge of international i'm sure he'll sway our vote ;P

[Spartan]

Also Decks he did say he doesn't know :P No need to get defensive. :)

[Decks]

Not at all Spartan ;) I just wanted it made clear and not heading in the wrong direction.

Btw, I fully understand how this match looks, but what if Team Bel won it ?? Well I would of course placed in the same report and confirmed it for the most likely possibility that an Admin would have something to say. 100% tbh ...

I just wouldnt like to think that Team Bel made the suggestion for us to bring up our numbers with "guest players" knowing it was a one way street from the start.

If they really have a problem with it, Team Ire shouldnt be punished here. A rematch would be fair for both sides if this is the case. With the same players who played the match and Team Ire to get those other two who didnt show up to play.

[Coelho]

msn me decks for whenever you want our match

[Billie]

I am finding it very hard to get to grips with this in all honesty.

Team Ireland play a Welsh and an English player - now I know my geography is not good but even I can work out that those players definitely do not qualify as eligible to play.

I am all for being friendly and sporting but a total disregard for the rules is something else.

I will seek the other admins opinions on this matter but in my eyes it is totally unacceptable and makes the whole International division a sham, if we are to allow anyone of any nationality to play for any International clan when the need arises.

[Rod]

Nice case for a come back xD

[OldGit]

I am finding it very hard to get to grips with this in all honesty.

Team Ireland play a Welsh and an English player - now I know my geography is not good but even I can work out that those players definitely do not qualify as eligible to play.

I am all for being friendly and sporting but a total disregard for the rules is something else.

I will seek the other admins opinions on this matter but in my eyes it is totally unacceptable and makes the whole International division a sham, if we are to allow anyone of any nationality to play for any International clan when the need arises.

Hey decks i dont think they are falling for it shaft.

Good try m8 .

Any international clans looking for a Cornish man? :adore

[Spartan]

I think Germany are Mike :D

[OldGit]

lol

Hello woss xxx

[ZuMie]

rematch? :p

[Decks]

I am finding it very hard to get to grips with this in all honesty.

Team Ireland play a Welsh and an English player - now I know my geography is not good but even I can work out that those players definitely do not qualify as eligible to play.

I am all for being friendly and sporting but a total disregard for the rules is something else.

I will seek the other admins opinions on this matter but in my eyes it is totally unacceptable and makes the whole International division a sham, if we are to allow anyone of any nationality to play for any International clan when the need arises.

Its 100% your place Billie and as said before, I fully understand that .... But it would NEVER have crossed my mind if not suggested by Team Belgium's captain, (Blutch). Which im surprised, hasnt dropped in to give his new thoughts on the matter.

I again was fully aware of the nationalities of both added players for the Inter match. Blutch knew they were not Irish also, hence "Bring guests in to fill up and lets have some fun".

The Inter ladder is just another ladder, pls dont think this doesnt go on in all other ladders as we all just want to have a game at the end of the day.

[=SWE= Starsniper]

I wonder if belgium had won the match. would the admin have stepped in and said anything at all. or would you have just closed your eyes ?

i was asked to played a match to help out a team that were short of players
cos belguim requested it.

great shame they dont have the decency to make a post saying that they there selves were the ones that asked for decks to make up the numbers

so maybe it was there main intention to have the win either way.

[Fuppet]

I wonder if belgium had won the match. would the admin have stepped in and said anything at all. or would you have just closed your eyes ?

i was asked to played a match to help out a team that were short of players
cos belguim requested it.

great shame they dont have the decency to make a post saying that they there selves were the ones that asked for decks to make up the numbers

so maybe it was there main intention to have the win either way.

If the admin had seen who had played, they would have said something, make no mistake about that.

You can't play by your own rules, post them and then expect admin to say/do nothing. Trying to pin the blame on the admins or Belgium is somewhat silly.

If 2 teams can't meet the criteria set down by the league rules, why didn't they play a friendly?

[Decks]

If the admin had seen who had played, they would have said something, make no mistake about that.

100% Fups, fully agree and expected. Hence the reason why I started this thread in the first place. I wanted to see the opinion on the Admins as I myself wasnt sure if it would pass as a result.

You can't play by your own rules, post them and then expect admin to say/do nothing.

Didnt you yourself post here that you tried to play none registered players in a match that had nothing to do with this thread ?? This was expected from my part.

Trying to pin the blame on the admins or Belgium is somewhat silly.

Do you really believe that ?? honestly ?? come on fuppet ! Im simply trying to draw out exactly what Star has commented on and have myself. Where is Team Belgium,s CL,s word on this ?? Is he sitting back just looking and hoping in his own favor ?? wtf ?? He,s posted on other threads here, he couldnt have missed this one ! ............ He suggested something HE thought of and wanted, it backfired, so why should Team Ire suffer for it ??.

If 2 teams can't meet the criteria set down by the league rules, why didn't they play a friendly?

One should take his own advice from past posts as stated :bor

[sp00k]

If the admin had seen who had played, they would have said something, make no mistake about that.

You can't play by your own rules, post them and then expect admin to say/do nothing. Trying to pin the blame on the admins or Belgium is somewhat silly.

If 2 teams can't meet the criteria set down by the league rules, why didn't they play a friendly?

We did not say anything about playing by our own rules . We did not hide anything we posted who played and by who's say so . We are not blaming the Belgians as two of the team Ireland players myself included play for BES in the premier league BES is the Belgian Elite Squad so i am hardly gonna cause trouble with my own team mates we just want this sorted and if it means replaying so be it . But this is now being left to the admins to sort out
thank you

[Dub_Gunner]

Have to say this is the biggest load of crap to read tbh.

As i see it team ire had 4 players ready to play and could have played the match 4v6. But team belgium requested they bring in 2 no reged players to make the game fun.This was team belgiums choice to do this so score should stick no ifs and butts about it.

It is really lame that blutch has not replied on this matter in the hope that the default is given to him (sad really)

And fuppet why is it anytime a =swe= members is involved you just have to put ur 2 cents in grow up man ffs.

It is **** like this that has me losing intrest in playing matches anymore.
i used to enjoy playing matches but with all the **** that follows i just cant be arsed any more tbh. think ill go become a wow nerd and give up the game i loved so much :(

[Major Lagg]

I can totally understand Decks's frustration in this matter. As posted before, Ire could've played the match 4v6, but was instead asked to bring in other non-Ire players to make it a fair and fun game. I fail to see the problem with that, even though as Billie said the nationalities don't add up.

I find it strange that Blutch is staying quiet about this, as Team|NL hasn't had problems with Team Belgium in past seasons as far as I know.

As Fuppet said, if there was an admin present this match would not have happened. But it did, and the 'offence' of having fun was committed with mutual consent. Both teams knew full well what they were doing and had fun. To be honest, I don't see the problem in that. Also, "failure to check for ANY discrepencies BEFORE the match starts means the final result will stand. NO EXCEPTIONS." :)

[Fuppet]

Have to say this is the biggest load of crap to read tbh.

As i see it team ire had 4 players ready to play and could have played the match 4v6. But team belgium requested they bring in 2 no reged players to make the game fun.This was team belgiums choice to do this so score should stick no ifs and butts about it.

It is really lame that blutch has not replied on this matter in the hope that the default is given to him (sad really)

And fuppet why is it anytime a =swe= members is involved you just have to put ur 2 cents in grow up man ffs.

It is **** like this that has me losing intrest in playing matches anymore.
i used to enjoy playing matches but with all the **** that follows i just cant be arsed any more tbh. think ill go become a wow nerd and give up the game i loved so much :(

I totally agree, it is the biggest load of crap to read, you simply cannot play an international match with players from a different country. Anyone who thinks that is acceptable and doesn't like the Admin decision, stop whining and go play somewhere else.

I put my 2 cents in as and where I see fit, don't you start getting humpy with me in support of rule breakers. Nowadays it's me and Billie left to deal with most things Mohaa related so if you have a problem with me, go cry to Billie you soft arse!

Thankfully I don't play WoW, so maybe we'll both benefit from you becoming a WoW, nerd!

[Coelho]

I totally agree, it is the biggest load of crap to read, you simply cannot play an international match with players from a different country. Anyone who thinks that is acceptable and doesn't like the Admin decision, stop whining and go play somewhere else

I play with scottish, northern irish and welsh players, yet im English

[Billie]

Have to say this is the biggest load of crap to read tbh.

As i see it team ire had 4 players ready to play and could have played the match 4v6. But team belgium requested they bring in 2 no reged players to make the game fun.This was team belgiums choice to do this so score should stick no ifs and butts about it.

The score should not and will not stick. It was Team Irelands choice to break the rules by playing two non eligible, non Irish players. I am all for friendliness and sportsmanship but you must see how ridiculous this is. How can you possibly claim to be Team Ireland if you have English and Welsh players playing for you. If there is a shortage of Irish players then make a recruitment post. This match will be null and voided and will need to be replayed with both teams following the rules.


And fuppet why is it anytime a =swe= members is involved you just have to put ur 2 cents in grow up man ffs.

In case you had failed to notice Dub, Fuppet is an admin here and it is his role to respond to problems and assist. It would be appreciated if you would be respectful to the admins and remember that they give up there free time to do this thankless job and do not deserve abuse from you or anyone else.

[Fuppet]

I play with scottish, northern irish and welsh players, yet im English

Please accept my apology, my terminology was incorrect.

[Fox]

Also, "failure to check for ANY discrepencies BEFORE the match starts means the final result will stand. NO EXCEPTIONS." :)

Aren't the admins bending the rules here?

[Coelho]

Please accept my apology, my terminology was incorrect.

I accept your apology

[Dub_Gunner]

Im sry billie i thought online gaming was ment to be about having fun (IS IT NOT ) i Know quite well if the scores had of been diffrent and we had lost there would have been nothing said about this and score would have stuck.

Also if decks hadent have said anything about it no one would have been any the wiser as team belgium havent made a post about it as yet.

So as it looks Team ire are been puinished for first playing 2 unreged players on request of the other team to make the game fun ( what a crime )

and second for been honest about it and posting it for everybody to see when nobody needed to know ( how could we be so honest )


Decks in furture do be so bloody honest as you see it only gets trown back in ur face ( so much for doing the right thing )

( Before the Game
Before the match commences Clan Leaders Deputy Clan Leaders or War Arrangers have 5 minutes to check DMW id\'s, players names and server settings. Failure to check BEFORE the war starts, for ANY DISCREPANCIES, means final result will stand. (No exceptions)

Funny i thought (No exceptions) means (No exceptions)

[Billie]

Im sry billie i thought online gaming was ment to be about having fun (IS IT NOT ) i Know quite well if the scores had of been diffrent and we had lost there would have been nothing said about this and score would have stuck.

Dub, it is a game and yes it is meant to be fun but we have to remain sensible. We cannot have an International division where any player from any country can play in any team.

We are a league that is built around fun and community spirit but common sense must prevail. In an official game there are rules which need to be followed.

Also if decks hadent have said anything about it no one would have been any the wiser as team belgium havent made a post about it as yet.

We would have found out as the admins regularly check team lists.

So as it looks Team ire are been puinished for first playing 2 unreged players on request of the other team to make the game fun ( what a crime )

and second for been honest about it and posting it for everybody to see when nobody needed to know ( how could we be so honest )

You were not forced to play the players Dub. Presumably whoever was in charge that night agreed to play them


( Before the Game
Before the match commences Clan Leaders Deputy Clan Leaders or War Arrangers have 5 minutes to check DMW id\'s, players names and server settings. Failure to check BEFORE the war starts, for ANY DISCREPANCIES, means final result will stand. (No exceptions)

Funny i thought (No exceptions) means (No exceptions)

That is a players ruling to stop people from claiming default wins on silly issues that could and should be sorted before a match is played and not afterwards. Admins reserve the right to step in at any time when rules are being broken.

[Spartan]

I'm sorry i feel i should say something.

We would have been slightly more lenient if it were a normal clan match, but international...when i think of Team Ireland i think of the Irish, but i suppose we can make Team Ireland Ft Wales & England to make the world more multicultural.

The rules say minimum of 4 players yes? So Belgium would have had to play 4v6, or you could have re-arranged. It wasn't them saying you have to, because you didn't.

I really don't understand why people are complaining...because in my eyes, both teams have been equally stupid, it's not like we're saying Belgium are having a default, it's a rematch...

If you would like something to moan about we can always just make the result a complete void and you aren't allowed to replay it...so just 0 points for both. If you moan this much for a fair decision well god help us if we do something bad!

Arrange your rematch stop moaning and don't do it in future...SIMPLE

[Decks]

As said before and seeing the Admins have made their decision on this, i,ll just say cheers for that :adore

Lock it or delete it .................

[sp00k]

billie can u clear the match from the fixtures list so we can re-arrange please

[Billie]

Deleted for you :)