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Decks
06-13-2008, 09:02 PM
For Team Ireland ......................
Ex England player ... TKZ Victory .......... AkA Victory | Ire ;)
My question is, will this be a problem from the Admins points on views ?? Cos i really dont wanna get into the uncountable nationality changing by other players tbh ;)
All im looking for as Team Captain of Ireland "atm" is the go ahead from an Admin to play Victory in our matches without BS ............ Can this be done I wonder ??
Ps: I take it ROD has stepped down as the International league admin then yes ?? Sad to see tbh ....................... :adore
Falco Lombardi
06-13-2008, 09:22 PM
If he's living in Ireland then he can play for Ireland. I think. :p
Fuppet
06-13-2008, 09:55 PM
I'd say no, assuming he has played for Eng?
If he moved to Ireland I can't see why not.
OldGit
06-13-2008, 11:08 PM
Ohhhh hes Irish ,Ive heard the old Bast..d on TS...You go get them alan m8 . :adore:adore
Victory
06-13-2008, 11:41 PM
Only lived there for about 38 years and still living there
Dub_Gunner
06-13-2008, 11:47 PM
Decks you bloody boon i already told you there is no problem with it ffs Doh!
He is living in Ireland the last 30 odd years so he is eligble to play for us iv already told you this so why bloody post Doh!
On that note can someone change ENG |Victory to Victory | Ire
please ?????????????????????????????????????????????????? ?????????????????
Decks
06-14-2008, 12:35 AM
Decks you bloody boon i already told you there is no problem with it ffs Doh!
He is living in Ireland the last 30 odd years so he is eligble to play for us iv already told you this so why bloody post Doh!
?????????????????????????????????????????????????? ?????????????????
I post Dubbie due to seeing Rod is no longer the International league admin and GUESS WHO is now ;) Along with his post / "opinion" lmfao @ that tbfh .........
Nothing worse than to win a match with a player who could and can as "we know" play for us only for a admin ! cough ! cough ! to say default to the other team for not seeking advice on the matter before hand :bor
I,d like a REAL admin,s opinion on this pls and NO ! Im not being disrespectful to the league Mods / admins of the Clandle, im only lowering myself to their level.
Again, nothing worse than an "admin" with a to do list :busted:
Decks
06-14-2008, 12:42 AM
I'd say no, assuming he has played for Eng?
if your gonna be taking over as the International league admin fuppet, Read the Clandle rules on it before posting the BS i spoke about :think:
International Division Extra Rules
1: Members are only eligible to play for the country they currently reside in, not the country they were born in or their parents were born in. (exceptions may be made with live cam - papers and passport check)
Victory is from Northern IRELAND :woot:
OldGit
06-14-2008, 02:20 AM
I'd say no, assuming he has played for Eng?
Stop trying to be a smart ass phil,you know hes played for England ,So why be a prat about it and come out with these posts just to flame and to get a reactions.
I think fuppet has too much say in what goes on with anything to do with MOHAA .
He seems to hold a grudge with old clans that still play this game and holds back the community that wants to keep this game alive.
If you have moved on to COD please lets have a admin that still loves the game of MOHAA to run our league.
Billie
06-14-2008, 12:31 PM
Firstly, we need to get some things straight.
You should all research your facts before jumping to conclusions and insulting admins.
You all accuse Fuppet of bearing a grudge yet if we actually look at the posts we see that all Fuppet has done is politely answer Decks query.
It was after discussion with myself that Fuppz made his post so please stop with the constant barrage of abuse. I was unwell myself yesterday and am very grateful that there was an admin around who was willing to help out. What we do not need and will not tolerate is admins being abused everytime they do their job. This sort of action has not and never will be tolerated at Clandle.
I shall not give anymore warnings on this matter, if you continue to be abusive to an admin who is only trying to do his job then action will be taken.
Now for the matter of Vic. It was after discussion with myself that Fuppz made his reply.
We have the problem that Victory up until recently was an England player. I am not disputing whether Victory be Irish or British but the fact that he played for England would bring us to conclude that he met the criteria as an England player and therefore does not meet the criteria to be an Irish player.
If you are now telling us that Victory was ineligible to play for England then that is a matter we need to look into and deal with.
Victory
06-14-2008, 12:41 PM
Billie with Northern Ireland being part of the UK and also its in the northern part of Ireland i can claim Duel citizenship and therfore play for both Eng and Ire :adore:busted:
Fuppet
06-14-2008, 01:13 PM
Let's look at this sensibly please.
1. I answered and gave my opinion just like Falco has, I get abuse, he doesn't. Are you guys taking the hump because I've answered and you don't agree with me?
2. You cannot play for 2 different countries, that's just wrong. Eng or Scot or Wales and Uk is fine, not either of the 3 countries though. Where in any team game is this allowed, football, chess, tennis?
3. Oldgit, as far as I was aware, Victory is English and as he played for Eng, I assumed that was his preffered International team. No smartassness about it from me, was just my opinion.
4. Decks, you seem to think I'm not fit to get involved as a Clandle admin and constantly have a pop at me. Again on this post you are inferring that I shouldn't be passing comment, might I suggest if you don't want me to answer then either don't ask on the forums (ask Billie privately) or move onto your other preffered league.
For those of you who are struggling to get it into your heads, my original response was valid. If we now have a situation where Victory was ineligible to play when he is in fact preffering to play for Ireland we will have to review the information and decide on the best course of action.
Oldgit and Decks, if you want to throw any more insults at me especially when I'm trying to admin these leagues then expect repercussions.
Fuppet
06-14-2008, 01:14 PM
Billie with Northern Ireland being part of the UK and also its in the northern part of Ireland i can claim Duel citizenship and therfore play for both Eng and Ire :adore:busted:
No!
:woot:
Spartan
06-14-2008, 03:37 PM
Ok i'm going to say look at football, and use Almunia as an example, he can currently choose to play for England or Spain, once chosen he cannot go to play for the other. That is basically the same here. Once you have chosen your country to play for, you only play for them (or the UK before some smartass comments).
Steiner
06-14-2008, 06:03 PM
Well take Icehockey for example: u can actually play for 2 countries even if u have played for one country already with the association good will.I think that is also applied when it comes to football.
So if i left my country for work which isnt impossible,i cant play for the country i live in atm??I dont wanna cause any problems but i just wanna know.
If Vic played for Eng and not UK then an error was made when he was accepted on the Eng Team since he clearly is a Northern Ireland chap.
If he played for the UK team that would have been a different story since N.Ireland is a part of United Kingdom.
I´m sorry but i dont see how u can refuse him to play in the National Ireland Team,since the orignal error was made by the captain of the ENG team that accepted Victory in the team and u as admins fail to look into it,so dont punish Vic for your own error.
Come on its a game and its not real life even tho some rules have to be followed.
PS this is not an abuse against admins but wouldnt it be better if we had admins that actually played mohaa for the mohaa leauge part of Clandle???
RiGGs
06-14-2008, 06:26 PM
Well take Icehockey for example: u can actually play for 2 countries even if u have played for one country already with the association good will.I think that is also applied when it comes to football.
Not entirely true.
You could play for England up to Under 21 level and then play for a better team like Scotland as a full cap :) But what you couldnt do is play as full cap for both international teams in football.
Once your capped at Senior level for a country thats it.
RiGGs
06-14-2008, 06:29 PM
Ok i'm going to say look at football, and use Almunia as an example, he can currently choose to play for England or Spain, once chosen he cannot go to play for the other. That is basically the same here. Once you have chosen your country to play for, you only play for them (or the UK before some smartass comments).
He would obviously choose Spain :)
I know I would but then again Id play for the Faroe Islands if it was between them and England :p:aet
OldGit
06-14-2008, 06:29 PM
[QUOTE=Steiner;10648]
I´m sorry but i dont see how u can refuse him to play in the National Ireland Team,since the orignal error was made by the captain of the ENG team that accepted Victory in the team and u as admins fail to look into it,so dont punish Vic for your own error.
lol Who was that stupid english captain again?? WHO was that English bloke that played for Team ireland???
Hey keeps the forum busy :aet
:busted:
Fuppet
06-14-2008, 06:35 PM
Well take Icehockey for example: u can actually play for 2 countries even if u have played for one country already with the association good will.I think that is also applied when it comes to football.
So if i left my country for work which isnt impossible,i cant play for the country i live in atm??I dont wanna cause any problems but i just wanna know.
If Vic played for Eng and not UK then an error was made when he was accepted on the Eng Team since he clearly is a Northern Ireland chap.
If he played for the UK team that would have been a different story since N.Ireland is a part of United Kingdom.
I´m sorry but i dont see how u can refuse him to play in the National Ireland Team,since the orignal error was made by the captain of the ENG team that accepted Victory in the team and u as admins fail to look into it,so dont punish Vic for your own error.
Come on its a game and its not real life even tho some rules have to be followed.
PS this is not an abuse against admins but wouldnt it be better if we had admins that actually played mohaa for the mohaa leauge part of Clandle???
You can play some international matches for another country as long as it is a friendly, once you commit in a competitive match you stay with your chosen team.
As you say, this is a friendly league and we do put a lot a lot of trust in players to be clean. We do not expect players to play for teams they are not eligible to play for, so saying it's the admins fault is a bit over the top..but rest assured we will look into it and see who the Eng captain was at the time.
Regarding the admin question, I don't know whether Bille is currently playing mohaa with a clan, but I just can't commit due to work loads at the current time. If you have any good ideas as to who can be my understudy for a month or so, I'm all ears. If you don't think Billie should be doing the admin as she hasn't got a current mohaa team then that is just laughable.
OldGit
06-14-2008, 07:01 PM
..but rest assured we will look into it and see who the Eng captain was at the time.
I will save your time Phil ..........................
It was ...............................ME
Steiner
06-14-2008, 07:17 PM
I do have some suggestions and noone of them contains your name Phil but ill take that up with Billie but im sure u will be told the full contain of the conversation:).
Tbh Phil u have been a ****ing muppet since u started play mohaa,In BAD u was a **** and in rejekz u was even worse so having u as an admin is a bloody joke and thats not disrespecting any other admins since i think most admins do a bloody good job even Spartan:).I have the outmost respect for Billie and she knows it.Rod is bloody good admin even tho he is french,lol...I really like u Rod:adore, shame he has left tho.
Ban me if u please for admin abuse but HEY!!! I thought u had the right to express your free will on this forum too a certain extent.
So if saying Phil is a muppet and get a ban for it so be it...Ill take my punishment and be back after that......Phil u are the worse admin of the (CMOHL)clandle that i ever have seen during my years in here...Why dont u leave and dont come back....Pretty please!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Decks
06-14-2008, 07:58 PM
Sorry to hear you were unwell Billie, but im not here to make your chosen time given to the Clandle league difficult .
Im here and posting, while following yours and past admins set rules which i dont have a problem with, seems like admins do when suiting.
So !
If you are now telling us that Victory was ineligible to play for England then that is a matter we need to look into and deal with.
This is what is happening yes .......................... Again NOT Team Ireland,s fault ! YOURS !
2. You cannot play for 2 different countries, that's just wrong. Eng or Scot or Wales and Uk is fine, not either of the 3 countries though. Where in any team game is this allowed, football, chess, tennis?
DosieDick for one NOTHING SAID !!
4. Decks, you seem to think I'm not fit to get involved as a Clandle admin and constantly have a pop at me. Again on this post you are inferring that I shouldn't be passing comment, might I suggest if you don't want me to answer then either don't ask on the forums (ask Billie privately) or move onto your other proffered league.
You honestly think im the only one Fuppet ?? and im only "popping" at you when you "pop" at me buds !
I,ve Np with you as an admin to give your opinion, but your constantly agaisnt ALL =SWE= Members and myself . Your NOT staying neutral when you take on your so called role as an admin here ....... I,d hate to think of what some past admins have worked for to get this league to were it is only for a unsuitable admin that doesnt even bother with the game he,s admining, yet still ruin it !.
Oh and why should I speak to Billie privately ?? This is a "friendly open forum" correct ??
Oldgit and Decks, if you want to throw any more insults at me especially when I'm trying to admin these leagues then expect repercussions.
Is this once again an admin making treats/ "PROMISES" because they cant take being told their wrong and unfair !
Ok i'm going to say look at football, and use Almunia as an example, he can currently choose to play for England or Spain, once chosen he cannot go to play for the other. That is basically the same here. Once you have chosen your country to play for, you only play for them (or the UK before some smartass comments).
Respect to you Spartan, but come on ! How many players have changed International teams here ?? Jezzzzz ! You talk about "International teams" as all the admins do, but guess what ;) Im the guy your taking about to bring these things up !! Where the hell as said before are the Uk International team regarding football (As this ladder stands by) in the rankings ???? THERE ISNT ANY ! So stop being so selective in your opinions !
If Vic played for Eng and not UK then an error was made when he was accepted on the Eng Team since he clearly is a Northern Ireland chap.
If he played for the UK team that would have been a different story since N.Ireland is a part of United Kingdom.
I´m sorry but i dont see how u can refuse him to play in the National Ireland Team,since the orignal error was made by the captain of the ENG team that accepted Victory in the team and u as admins fail to look into it,so dont punish Vic for your own error.
Come on its a game and its not real life even tho some rules have to be followed.
PS this is not an abuse against admins but wouldnt it be better if we had admins that actually played mohaa for the mohaa leauge part of Clandle???
Couldnt have said it better myself tbvh ! No really i couldnt ! lol .............
Hey keeps the forum busy :aet
:busted:
Trust you Mike lmao .................
You can play some international matches for another country as long as it is a friendly, once you commit in a competitive match you stay with your chosen team.
More BS !
Falco Lombardi
06-14-2008, 09:51 PM
Ok, so the rule we have is this:
Members are only eligible to play for the country they currently reside in, not the country they were born in or their parents were born in. (exceptions may be made with live cam - papers and passport check)
This rule states that Vic should not have been allowed to play for England as he's been living in Ireland for 30 something years (as far as I know). If we are to follow this rule that has been set then Vic should be allowed to play for Ireland or team UK and no other international team.
The problem we obviously have is that he has played for England against the rules (unsure whether this rule came before or after he originally joined England though).
We've hit a problem with the rules so we can either adapt them to take this problem into account or we can enforce the rule we have and say that Vic can now only play for Team Ireland (or UK). Or we can add or adapt the rules to stop any future problems but that would be something for the admins to discuss together.
And in my view Vic should be allowed to play for Ireland.
Also, can't we ever discuss something level-headedly (yeah it's a word, screw you ;P) without blaming and flaming?
Fuppet
06-14-2008, 10:11 PM
I've been as patient as possible, enjoy your break guys.
As far as I'm aware over the last year at the very least you have contributed nothing to Clandle/Cmohl either within the game or on the forums.
Enjoy your summer break!
Spartan
06-14-2008, 11:32 PM
Falco, at the time when Vic joined team England, it was checked, whether anyone remembers or not. As he was born in England or lived there ages before w/e and he proved it we gave him the choice, he then chose England.
Yes he has now lived in Ireland for 38 years or however many, but he played for England. Checked or not beforehand, he has played for a different country...
Decks we only made uk for more fun, because people who didn't get into the teams could still play, not for you to attempt to use against us. The reason we don't see Team football UK! is because the majority of people from Ireland, Scotland and Wales, despise the English. our Uk was made for fun so please don't start on that :c I was more on about the rules, not the teams.
Steiner, i don't do a good job, clearly, because otherwise we wouldn't have any disputes, and we'd have the respect as admins that when a decision is made, it's not moaned at, and at most, it's questioned in a polite manner. So clearly none of us are.
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