Conflict

[R3n@gade]

Week 3 - 20th October - 26th October - mp_crash & mp_pipeline

-=We CiP=- v Friends Stand United


We want a conclict..
1st they got a player that was not registrated on clandle....so we said something about that.
2 min later he was registrated. We wanna play, so we had said ok let him play.

We have a feeling that something wasn't right with some of there players.

Squad WECIP:
-Haahr
-buller
-BS
-NEO
-Khuva
-HI-PRO
-bumstaerk (the new guy)

Squad FsU
-leipert
-joeri
-k1ko
-nash
-slapshot (1st map) Biohazerd (2nd map)
-mindstate
-R3nagade

[#TcO.Squeezer]

Informed me on xfire will give the sit rep to your ladder admin.

[#TcO.Squeezer]

Could the following people post their demos or contact me on xfire: tijgertje1


bumstaerk
buller

For the We Cip side

Reneagade
Leipert

for the FsU side

Rarred please.

Can be emailed towards lindsy.lievens@telenet.be or by msn squeezer@clandle.co.uk or via xfire tijgertje1

[#TcO.Squeezer]

Could the demos from We Cip players that evening become provided?

Nothing seen yet.

[bumstaerk]

Just to straighten out some things here.
The reason why I wasn't registrated to We CiP was due to a mistake, and which I apoligize for. But we asked before the match start if this was going to be a problem, and they all said "No". We even told them that I would leave and let someone else play, but they all said "np".
Childess behaviour to come hudling afterwards, trying to grab a wildcard - simply because you lost the match.

To Squeezer - I've added you to Xfire.

[#TcO.Squeezer]

Thanks for adding me :) did not found you guys tbh :(


Demos uploaded from both parties so this thread will get updated with the judgement from the admin team soon.


Friendly regards

admins

[-=We CiP=-haahr(DK)]

Can we pls get oures point

[#TcO.Squeezer]

Waiting on all the admins there comment about the match and demos.

Patience please we are working on this conflict.

[-=We CiP=-haahr(DK)]

wot is taking so long ???????

[#TcO.Squeezer]

haahr keep it friendly please. We are admins ok we do our work ok but we also do have lives and some of us had an busy time.

Anyway

Result of the conflict:


-Points as they where played
-If an guid is incorrect *Do Not RUP!* and contact an admin for help or ask to *Remove the player with incorrect guid before match takes start!* Once rupped and war started evryone agrees with the players that are on the server!
-Demos checked nothing wrong seen so the something wrong could be a difference in skill to say it unfriendly.
-Warning to We CiP to please make sure youre players have correct guids filled in and are on the correct list!!!
-Warning to FsU to please state problems before match takes a start and not afterwards!

Warning to both clans who knocked my door with unfriendly *What is taking so long!* crap that the admins do try to neogatiate and watch over the demos before taking action in matters and the fact that their is not an measured time limit posted in rules for *How long an Conflict* could take place!

Friendly regards

Squeezer

Give each other an hand and go fight some wars again :)

[-=We CiP=-haahr(DK)]

sry m8

[England4eva]

No problem Hairy, don`t do it again! :D

[sogs]

often thought this, if you didnt find us before the game starts then unlucky, rule as a bit of a slap in the face to clans playing by the rules.

Its a little bit like letting off most criminals for any offence because they didnt get caught before the offence started!!

Just to make it clear for some people, if you can get away with it go for it.
id also like to point out that alot of matches are run on a time schedule, and to hold things up for 10-15 mins whilst you check everything out is hard work.
Maybe a rule should be put in place where clans in a match need to get in the server 10mins before match start time.
Then you will have time to check stuff over.

[England4eva]

Hi Sogs,

I`ve raised a question if a 15 minute limit on turning up can be dropped into the rules as it is with MOHAA.

Things can`t be held up for "10-15" minutes to check everything because there is a "5" minute rule set aside for this.

All the server clan has to do is take a screenshot, then send it to the other team, they then check 5 or so GUIDs.

It hardly adds any time to a match and due to the fact a match could last any time from 45 mins to an hour and a half or more then clans should be aware that the match they play may run over and be available to play any over run. If you need time to check over things then its possible to arrange your matches a little earlier.

On a further note the rules do not allow people to "get away with it go for it." - This is caused when clans don`t bother to check and then complain afterwards
when they had ample opportunity to do it before. Any clan refusing to let a clan do these checks can also be punished.

[#TcO.Squeezer]

Tbh


I simply dont rup before i have seen the guids and checked them Not OK = dont play for me.

Yes it takes some extra minutes but should be able to have been done in under ten minutes tbh.

I understand you and i dont like *Not correct* clans myself but in the end agreeing before the war for an player and not agreeing afterwards is not done also *sportive basis*!

If you find it hard to check *lots of minutes ticking away* you could try the system we from dF. use:

- One on the server typs /pb_plist and checks guids while another one on TS/Ventrillo checks the last four figures of each pb_guid on the roster on the clandle site.

Normally this can be done in about 3 minutes to check all 5 guids *from opposites* with this system.

But well i see its being mentionned on admin forum and the idea is not bad neither but in a way latecomers are from evry time so when they come five minutes late when a war is scheduled @ 20.00Uk i dont see how they would show up on time for checking guids while a war is scheduled @ 20.00UK. I mean when we would add an extra *you have to be there 15 minutes before match arranged hour* rule i really dont see how we can control this and how we could get latecoming clans at time on servers.

But ok i think we are gonna give it a thought? :)

Friendly regards

Squeezer

p.s. @ Haarh No prob mate but it is really frustrating all these pm s :p i understand you guys want answers as quick as possible :p but we are only human also and i had to waith for my fellow admins *Tbh in my opinion My Bosses ^^* before saying its ok results as they where or no match was incorrect should be replayed or def or this or that :p

So my excuses that it took a while but it had to be talked over and the admins also have family lives etc.

So anyways prob solved i hope for evryone?

[sogs]

maybe 10 or 5 mins before instead? or maybe some irc or other place for the 2 cl's to go together and check all is ok.
Maybe a roster post prior to match, so everyone knows who is playing?